Zachariah Benjamin SALYER\SALLIER {M} = Elizabeth DUNN {F}

Married BEF 1752¹

Zachariah Benjamin SALYER\SALLIER:

Born 24 January 1730, Woodbridge, Middlesex Co, NJ
Died 1789, Piedmont, Chowan Co, NC
Occupation: Shoemaker, Trader, Farmer
I am trying to connect with Charles Sallier b ca 1667. M Rebecca Bloomfield. I have:son Zachariah Salyer m Elizabeth Dunn. Their son: Zachariah Salyer m Mary Sailor. Their son: Joseph Salyer m Sarah Salyer.Their dtr: Nancy Salyer m Henry Osborn their son: Jonathan Osburn m Ruthie Jane Middleton. Their dtr Frankie Jane Osburn is my gm. Any names sound familiar? I can use all the help I can get.

Rosetta Watkins Cox
celestin83@bartnet.net
Birth: Zachariah SALLYER, Sr. of Edenton, N.C. ?
Death: One researcher says he died in Burke Co, NC.
Occupation: Elisabeth L. W. Salyer, "The Salyer Family: Genealogy and Records of Their First 250 Years in America," 1st ed., American Memoirs Pub., Stuart, FL, 1982: He [Zachariah] owned in excess of 1000 acres of land in a mountainous area of North Carolina [probably by squatter's rights and occupation of seven years] and may have been riding through the forest when he was attacked by a mountain lion (panther). Zachariah is mentioned in several documents as owing taxes in Chowan County, NC. He seems to have tried to evade paying taxes by moving and hiding from the authorities. He was also prosecuted for non-payment of debts."
Misc. event Type: Rev War
Misc. event Date: ABT 1777
Misc. event Place: NY as a Private

Isaiah SALYER² {M} = Unknown SALYER {F} > Family

Married BEF 1775

Isaiah SALYER:

Alias Still SALYER
Born 1752, Rutherford Co, NC
Died 3 December 1818, Russell Co, VA³
From: H. S. Patton [mailto:pattunes@erols.com]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 2:17 PM
To: Kim Watt
Subject: Some new dirrection for your research.

I believe the Nancy Carty who married Isiah Salyer Jr was a sister to Abner, Thomas Wiley, John P and William and David Carty Jr (all Cartys) Their father was David Carty Sr see Russell County Census 1820 to 1830. on Russell Count US Genweb site. Further The Lineage of Isiah Salyer Sr i sknown back to Charles and William Sallier. Elizabeth Dunn who was the wife of Isiah Salyer Sr's father Zachariah Benjamin Salyer is often shown as the daughter of Henry Dunn, however I suspect that she descends from The family of John Dunn through hi sgrandson Hugh who married Elizabeth Martin They are first and foremost resident in Woodbridge NJ where the Salliers live at the time of Zachariah's birth. very interesting site about the Dunn Family and its connections to the Drake family of Francis Drake is on line. and can be found by searching the names Drake, Martin and Dunn together, sorry But I do not have the address immediately available. I have yet to figure out where the connection to Henryy Dunn Comes from as I can find no record of a henry and the names in the Salyer line suggest otherwise. For one thing the name Martin persists and Martin Dunn Salyer is a son of Zachariah Benkjamin Salyer Sr which suggests if anything that Elizabeth's father was named Martoin Dunn, however the Martin Dunn in Albemarle County VA who is also probably of the same line as Elizabeth is a contemporary to her, perhaps a brother. It is very likely that this Elizabeth is actually the Daughter of Hugh Dunn Jr and Elizabeth Dunn who are known to have had a daughter named Elizabeth but what becomes of her is unknown. Since they are resident in Woodbridge NJ at the same time as Zachariah Benjamin (two other names that fit the Dunn line coincidentally, of Elizabeth) it is quite possible., even probable that she is the same as the wife of Zachariah Salyer. Still investigating.
Interestingly I descend from The Abner Salyer who starts off your page. My gggrandfather was Andrew J Patton who was the oldest son of the relationship between Abner Salyer and Elizabeth Patton. I have yet to determine the relationshipo between her and William Martin Salyer's second wife Darcus Patton who was likely a daughter of Samuel Patton. It is believed by some researchers that Elizabeth Patton was the Daughte of John Patton, son of James Patton, son of John Patton the brother to Col James Patton. It is said that John is the son of James and an unknown first wife, I believe she may have been the daughter of Dr Thomas Walker. Sometime back in VA I had stumbled on the gravesite of Dr Walker and wife in Culpeper as i recall and Burried with them is a Daughter who was the wife of James Patton. I will someday find that site which was just around the corner from the Courthouse and check out the dates. The Courthouse sits on a circle which has another old graveyard at its center but this is on a side street that runs next to the courthouse. The graves are marked by a Granite monument and sit beside the wall of a building on the property there are maybe as many as 100 or bette graves there but the walker portion is separated by an iron fence.
Steve Patton
Birth: Isaiah could have been born in Chowan Co., NC.
Misc. event Type: Rev War
Misc. event Date: ABT 1775
Isaiah Salyer became a fugitive who used "Still" as an alias (He was 'still' Isaiah).

= Unknown {F} > Family

Married ABT 1788⁴

= Mary CARTY\MCCARTY {F} > Family

Married BEF 1795, Russell Co, KY

Mary CARTY\MCCARTY:

Born 1776, NC
Died 1870, Russell Co, VA
The CARTY family used the name MCCARTY in Kentucky.

Martin Dunn SALYER⁵ {M} = Unknown UNKNOWN {F} > Family

Married BEF 1791

Martin Dunn SALYER:

Born 1756, Chowan Co, NC
Died 22 August 1851, Lincoln Co, KY
Birth: Per NSDAR Patriot Index on-line.
Misc. event Type: Rev War
Misc. event Date: BET 1776 AND 1781
Misc. event Place: NC and SC
He entered Military: 1776, NC; enlisted in Capt. Wm. Richardson's Co, Col. Isaac Huger's 5th Regiment. He left Military: ca. 1778, Charleston, Charleston Co, SC; honorably discharged with rank of Private
- ca. 1779, NC; enlisted in Capt. Wm. Little/Lytle's Co, Col. Armstrong's 6th Regiment.
- ca. 1781, Waynesborough, SC; honorably discharged with rank of Private
http://members2.dar.org/DAR/DARnet/pi/PI

= Frances PADGETT {F} > Family

Married 10 November 1821

Frances PADGETT:

John Carter says Frances's surname was THACKER.

John SALYER⁶ {M} = Elizabeth SCOTT {F} > Family

Married ABT 1783

John SALYER:

Born ABT 1 April 1763, Chowan Co, NC
Died 5 October 1843, Copper Creek, Nicklesville, Scott Co, VA
Birth: Per NSDAR Patriot Index on-line.
Misc. event Type: Rev War
Misc. event Date: frm 24 Jan 1781 for six months
Misc. event Place: SC
John enlisted in the loyalist Militia Company and also served with the Patriots.

According to the DAR Patirot's Index online, John was born in SC and died in IN between 1810-1890. Perhaps this John is a different John than the John here.

Benjamin SALYER⁷ {M} = Nancy BISHOP {F} > Family

Married 28 March 1798, Garrard Co, KY

Benjamin SALYER:

Born 1762, Chowan Co, NC
Died 1825, Harlan Co, KY
RUSSELL COUNTY, VIRGINIA LAW ORDER BOOK 1 (1786 - 1791)
Abstracted By Rhonda Robertson
P197 - Commonwealth vs Benjamin Sallier, complaint of the overseers of the poor for getting a base born child by Sarah Carder. Ordered that Benjamin Salliers give bond for the maintenance of child. Securities: Robert Vickers, Joseph Painter.

The above may NOT be this Benjamin Salyer.
Birth: He is listed as a soldier of the Revolution War in the DAR Patriot's Index online. Benjamin saw service in SC. DAR has his date of birth as ca 1755.
Misc. event Type: Rev War
Misc. event Date: 1777
Misc. event Place: SC

Zachariah SALYER {M} = Mary SAYLOR\SAILOR {F} > Family

Married ABT 1786, Russell Co, VA

Zachariah SALYER:

Born 1765, Chowan Co, NC
Died 1845, Johnson Co, KY
I am trying to connect with Charles Sallier b ca 1667. M Rebecca Bloomfield. I have:son Zachariah Salyer m Elizabeth Dunn. Their son: Zachariah Salyer m Mary Sailor. Their son: Joseph Salyer m Sarah Salyer.Their dtr: Nancy Salyer m Henry Osborn their son: Jonathan Osburn m Ruthie Jane Middleton. Their dtr Frankie Jane Osburn is my gm. Any names sound familiar? I can use all the help I can get.

Rosetta Watkins Cox
celestin83@bartnet.net


Question from Bud Caudle re:
I have a John Salyer supposedly born 1798 married to Margaret Sparks. John is supposedly a son of Zachariah Salyer(s), but I'm confused as to which Zachariah and which wife of Zachariah.

I also have a John Salyer reportedly born 1810, married to Margaret Jayne. This John is supposedly a son of Zachariah Jr and unknown wife.
Do I just have conflicting birthdates for the same John Salyer and possibly incorrect maiden name of wife? Or did he have two wives?

Reply from spiff@atlantic.net (John)
Here is an excerpt from "The Salyer Family" by Elisabeth L. W. Salyer, 1982, page 342:

E.7) John Salyer, the youngest son of Zachariah and Mary Salyer was born ca. 1810 on Mocassin Creek in Russell County, Virginia, and died after 1887 in Johnson County, Kentucky. He married 1st, Margaret Jayne, daughter of William Jayne. The marriage bond is dated 24 Nov. 1828. Both John and Margaret were under age and parental permission was required. Zachariah Salyer wrote the following permission for this marriage. (See illustration on page 343.)
William Jayne also wrote a permission for his daughter Margaret. (In previously published material concerning Salyers Margaret SPARKS is given as the wife of this John Salyer.)
John Salyer married 2nd, 23 April 1865 in Johnson County, Margaret Justice, daughter of Samuel Rice, Sr. John divorced Margaret 4 Sept. 1873 and he married 3rd, 17 May 1874, Elizabeth Preston. They were divorced 12 March 1881.

[end of excerpt].

Therefore, Bud, it would appear that you have two bits of conflicting information pertaining to the same John Salyer. Elisabeth Salyer's reference to the previously-published Sparks info seems to make it fairly clear that this previous information was in error.

If you or anyone is interested in the book by Elisabeth Salyer, I highly recommend it. She is a superb researcher and very professional and accurate with her information. Below is a link with information on how to order it:

http://genforum.genealogy.com/salyer/messages/419.html
Birth: Zachariah Salyer, Jr. was born after 1765 in North Carolina and died 1845 in Johnson County, Kentucky. Proven children of Zachariah and Mary: Samuel, William, Benjamin, Jacob, Levi, Joseph, and John.


Mary SAYLOR\SAILOR:

Born BET 1767 AND 1769, Russell Co, VA

Sarah SALYER {F} = Solomon SAYLOR\SAILOR {M} > Family

Married 1788

Sarah SALYER:

Born 1770, Chowan Co, NC
Died 1855, Harlan Co, KY
Occupation: Midwife
Death: Sarah "Sally" was a midwife. According to Court records, Sarah was a hale and hardy woman who supported herself as a midwife after Solomon's death. She died about seven years after Solomon and was about 80 years old.


Solomon SAYLOR\SAILOR:

Born 1765, Mechlenburg Co, NC
Died November 1848, Harlan Co, KY

Rebecca SALYER⁸ {F} = Stephen KILGORE {M} > Family

Married 1788, Russell Co, VA

Rebecca SALYER:

Born 1772, Chowan Co, NC
Died 1848, Marion Co, TN

Marriage: Elizabeth DUNN is the assumed name, based on tradition and naming patterns. Her father, Henry DUNN, a shoemaker, is listed in the records of Chowan Co., NC in 1754 and was an associate of friends of Zachariah SALYER.

1 : "Allen, Thomas D, MrTDA@aol.com, tdallen@ (Website) tdallen@s"
2 : "Allen, Thomas D, MrTDA@aol.com, tdallen@ (Website) tdallen@s"
3 : "Salyer, Elisabeth L. W., The Salyer Family: Genealogy & Reco"
4 : "Allen, Thomas D, MrTDA@aol.com, tdallen@ (Website) tdallen@s"
5 : "http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/John-C-Cart"; Page online
6 : "Allen, Thomas D, MrTDA@aol.com, tdallen@ (Website) tdallen@s"
7 : "Allen, Thomas D, MrTDA@aol.com, tdallen@ (Website) tdallen@s"
7a: "Salyer, Elisabeth L. W., The Salyer Family: Genealogy & Reco"
8 : "Salyer, Elisabeth L. W., The Salyer Family: Genealogy & Reco"